Desktop version?

LeonardoM

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I’d be happy to try out the beta and give you feedback whenever i notice bugs. I mean, i‘m already doing it with the actual version, why not do the same for the new version? ;)
 

mikelove

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It’ll be a public beta when it’s ready. (Limit from Apple is 10,000 testers which should hopefully cover pretty much everyone)
 
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mikelove

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No; to be honest we'd rather not release it until we have something that's pretty polished, since there's not much point in having people beta test something with a lot of obvious bugs we already know about. (would waste users' time filing reports and our time checking them against our bug database)
 

mikelove

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Depends on when it's ready and on how quickly Apple addresses the bugs in iOS 13. Honestly the extreme bugginess of the first few iOS 13 versions has more *more* inclined to require it if possible, since that way we can require 13.1 or 13.2 or whatever the first non-terrible version of it is and not be stuck supporting the in-between versions of iOS 13 too.
 

erwinhero

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Not officially, but some users have had success running our Android app in various emulators on desktops, and newish Chromebooks support running Android apps officially through the Play Store so if you consider those to be 'desktops' that would be a desktop version.

Also, we are hoping to launch a macOS app later this year when Apple releases a macOS update with their new "Project Marzipan" allowing iPad apps to be easily recompiled to work on Mac.
Any movement on the macOS Project Catalyst port now that Catalina has been released? Thank you.
 

synagr

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I know this thread is pretty old, considering it has been a full year. However, there are NO other Chinese dictionaries to date that I am aware of on PC, and trust me, there are a lot of college students (like myself) out there who would gladly pay for a desktop version of the app. I have already paid for the same dictionary packs on both android and ios because I love and support Pleco wholeheartedly (in the meantime, NOX and BlueStacks just don't work well on my PC, especially since they don't have pen support, so instead I typically have my iPhone and my iPad nearby whenever studying Chinese).

Just out of curiosity, what kind of money are we talking about to get Pleco running on PC?
 

mikelove

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Until 4.0 is finished on both iOS and Android we don't have the available staff time to do a PC port, and there's not really any amount of money that would cause us to reorder our priorities to get a PC port of 3.x out before that. Mac port can happen sooner since the work on that can happen in conjunction with work on 4.0 for iOS, but a PC port is a totally new thing.

I don't know much we'd ask for if we decided to crowdfund a PC port - quite a lot, I'd think; I remain highly skeptical of the commercial potential for a PC version of Pleco, so we'd have to make enough money to not only cover the cost of the initial port (with the inevitable delays / complications) but also let us maintain it for a while even if post-release sales proved disappointing.
 

synagr

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Until 4.0 is finished on both iOS and Android we don't have the available staff time to do a PC port, and there's not really any amount of money that would cause us to reorder our priorities to get a PC port of 3.x out before that. Mac port can happen sooner since the work on that can happen in conjunction with work on 4.0 for iOS, but a PC port is a totally new thing.

That makes sense.

I don't know much we'd ask for if we decided to crowdfund a PC port - quite a lot, I'd think; I remain highly skeptical of the commercial potential for a PC version of Pleco, so we'd have to make enough money to not only cover the cost of the initial port (with the inevitable delays / complications) but also let us maintain it for a while even if post-release sales proved disappointing.
If/when you do decide to do it, I'm not sure how feasible it would be, or how this might affect things, but just throwing it out there that it would be awesome if it was available through Microsoft Store. This would make it more accessible to more PCs. Also, you could have someone reach out to universities with dedicated Chinese programs and see if they would be willing to help fund the project. Brigham Young University is a good one, since there are tons of returned Chinese speaking missionaries and most, if not all that I met, use Pleco. But I completely understand the hesitation. After all, profit margins are an important part of business, and if it's a flop, well, that's a waste of resources.

One other idea I had is that you could ask users directly via the apps whether they would be interested in a desktop version and how much they would be willing to pay for it. Can you tell I want this? I would just switch to Mac when the 4.0 comes out, but they have no touchscreen/pen option other than iPad and that option does NOT work for me.
 

mikelove

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We might consider listing through the Microsoft Store, but our tentative plan for 4.0 / desktop releases is to start marking up app store prices to cover their commissions, so if the base price of the Professional Bundle on desktops remains $60 you'd likely be paying an extra ~$25 or so for the privilege of getting it through the Microsoft Store instead of from our website.

Surveys for purchase intent are... iffy, plus I hate to annoy users with something like that; a Kickstarter seems like a better solution since people have to actually commit real money rather than just saying they might hypothetically be interested.
 

icebear

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My desire to have Pleco on desktop was long motivated by the excellent reader function and text to speech, which helps build a good habit of reasonable pacing in "reading"/absorbing slightly challenging articles.

I learned that newer versions of Microsoft Word have a built-in text to speech reader that is quite competent. In a document, at the top ribbon go to Review -> Speech -> Read Aloud. It is certainly imperfect compared to Pleco, but serves as a decent desktop alternative for the time being.
 
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