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Jxy

Member
Today I just bought the Pleco Professional Bundle. Two things I was very excited about that comes with this bundle are the Kai Chinese and the Handwritten Xing fonts.
I was sad when I found out both of these fonts are based on the Mainland Chinese standard (id the upper component of 骨 is written with one stroke less (see image)), since I’m learning Traditional Chinese.
That’s why I’m requesting to add a Kaiti font based on the Taiwanese standard (since that’s the most common standard used among the people that use traditional Chinese).
And if possible, add a cursive / Xing font also based on the Taiwanese standard.
 

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Shun

状元
Hi Jxy,

that certainly is a very legitimate concern, though I would expect this means that Pleco would have had to license an additional Kaiti font, "Kaiti TC", the Traditional font which appears to fully conform to the Taiwanese standard, whereas the standard Kaiti font which includes both Simplified and Mainland Traditional script comes with iOS, free for apps to use. It appears that all of the more than 10 fonts that came preinstalled on my Mac that have "TC" in their name (such as "Kaiti TC" or "PingFang TC") do indeed have the inner corner in the 骨 character on the right side. As an illustrative example from my Mac:

Standard KaiTI and Kaiti TC.jpg


Of course, I would also welcome a choice between the different Traditional scripts on Pleco, provided it isn't too expensive for either Pleco or its users.

Regards,

Shun
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
Thanks.

The basic problem here is that font licensing models really aren’t set up well for offering fonts as add-ons like we do. Pretty much the only way to license a Chinese font for use in an app is to either pay a big annual license fee or an even bigger one time fee, and those fees are at a scale that would make it pretty much impossible for us to cover the cost from sales of a Taiwan-optimized font; we’d have to charge some ludicrous price like $30 or $40 for one font just to break even. (we’ve never met a font foundry that would do a percentage or per-copy royalty, useful though that would be)
 

Jxy

Member
Hey Mike!

Thanks for your reply! That’s understandable. I have one more question. Is it possible to add a feature (I believe android has as well) to make it possible to add and use custom fonts?
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
Is it possible to add a feature (I believe android has as well) to make it possible to add and use custom fonts?
We’re not planning to do direct loading of fonts, but we are planning to allow you to select fonts that you’ve installed systemwide - this will probably be an “expert mode only” feature in 4.0 though. (= may require you to own a particular add-on to unlock expert mode)
 

rizen suha

状元
system loaded fonts, awesome! even so and as said before, the current kai ti font is amazing, hope it will stay on board for ever. if there ever were a licensing issue, i for one would be "happy" to pay up. fonts are essential in chinese. a hanzi is a painting so better make it a good one.
 

Jxy

Member
We’re not planning to do direct loading of fonts, but we are planning to allow you to select fonts that you’ve installed systemwide - this will probably be an “expert mode only” feature in 4.0 though. (= may require you to own a particular add-on to unlock expert mode)
Thanks for the fast reply, Mike. I’m looking forward to when that feature is added. Have a nice day!
 

Shun

状元
That's a very valuable hint—I wonder about that, as well. Perhaps the MoE font license is limited to non-commercial uses, which would preclude their free use in Pleco. (Their website is excruciatingly slow, so I couldn't check myself.) I imagine that Pleco have paid a small amount for the right to include the MoE dicts as free dicts, and for the MoE fonts to be used in a commercial product, the rate might be much higher. I could be wrong.

@mikelove: I would absolutely understand if most of these details are business secrets.

MOE has what I understand to be the standard TW-Kai and TW-Sung fonts available for download without payment, but I don't know much about licenses. If their dictionary license works, it's possible their font license would as well?
Have a nice evening,

Shun
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
We haven’t paid anything for the MoE dicts, but my understanding is that these fonts - unlike the MoE dicts - are licensed strictly for non-commercial use and so can’t be included in Pleco.
 
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