Flashcards help

mastica

Member
Hi, I spent about an hour trying to figure out the Flashcards feature in Pleco 4.0. Some questions:
  1. What does card type “Chinese example” mean and how does it differ from Chinese Entry? How do I create a “Chinese example” card?
  2. What do Cloze Links, Variant info, and Reader Example links mean? Are they hyperlinks? Where do they appear on the card?
  3. Why does only Variant info allow for entry of photos and links?
  4. What do * … and // mean?
  5. To give some context, I’m trying to make cards where the front of the card is a cloze sentence / visual hints that I create, and the back is the headword and definition. I’d appreciate some pointers on how to achieve this.
Thanks,
Gerry
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
1) The differences are subtle (and may vanish altogether in the next beta, we're still going back and forth on that) - generally you'd want to use Chinese Example for sentences. You should be able to pick a card type in a menu at the top of the screen when you create a new custom card.

2) They're hyperlinks, yes. I wouldn't recommend trying to mess around with them directly yet, but basically, Cloze Links link to specific sentences (can be other cards or dictionary ones) that you want to use for cloze testing (we'll pick other sentences by default if you don't have any but if you do pick some then we'll use those) - you can modify that via the Organize definition screen if you've turned on the option for a + for each example; 'reader example' links are context sentences created from the document reader (settings / reader), and 'variant info' is something we only use internally to map onto an equivalent field in Pleco-created dictionaries.

3) That should also be possible in 'entry body', is it?

4) * (actually ⁕) is a token skip character; you can insert them in the character or pinyin field to make the lengths of those match up for the purposes of tone coloring / ruby / etc. // (actually ᜶) is for optional patterns, the same as in Pleco dictionaries - a space in a word where you can insert other words; our document reader uses these so that e.g. with 犯//愁 you could tap on the 犯 or the 愁 in 你犯什么愁 and it would show you the entry for 犯愁 along with the one for whichever of 犯/愁 you'd tapped on.

5) Could you be more specific about these 'visual hints'? In general the preferred way to do clozes in 4.0 is to make a card for the word you want to test and then link to a cloze from that Cloze Links field (or not bother and rely on us to pick a sentence for you), since that way we can track statistics for the word consistently (even if you're not always testing it in a cloze) and can easily switch between multi-choice / stroke order / etc tests for the same card because we know all of the details about the underlying word.

There isn't really a great way to have a custom card to do what you're describing with a default test type - the best option I can think of would be to put the sentence + visual hints in the 'entry body' field, headword in the appropriate Chinese headword field, and the definition in the 'notes' field; I *think* in the current version that if you did a test 'showing' definition' it would show just the 'entry body' field at first and then show the others (including notes) when the card is revealed, though I'd suggest testing this with one or two cards before you build any more around it.

With a custom test type you can show whatever combination of fields you like whenever you like, but those are *extremely* hairy to construct right now; for the next beta we've added a streamlined version where you don't have to muck around with 'presentations' and can simply say that you want these fields in this order with this formatting in the front/back of the card, so if neither of the above options works, you could wait for that beta and there should be a better solution then.
 

mastica

Member
Ok, I tried making a card type="Chinese sentence" with my cloze sentence in the Entry body field (front), and for the "back" of the card I put the cloze deleted character in the Simplified field, and the translation in the Notes field. Then I made a test profile with Question type = cloze self-graded, Show = definition but Pleco says the card is invalid. If I change the card type to Chinese entry, when I test it, Pleco picks a random example sentence (not one I wrote) with that character in it to show as the card front. Anyhow it seems like support for this is a work in progress, so I can wait until the next beta comes out.

Unrelated suggestion: It would be nice from any definition screen, to have 1 tap access to look up another word, ie search AND put the focus in the search textbox with the keyboard up. I'd bet that the most common action after looking up a word is to simply look up another word, so I'd like to optimize for that. The fastest way to do this now seems to be to tap the Search button in the toolbar and then to tap the (x) in the search textbox to clear it. The problem is that the (x) button in the search textbox is both small and far from the bottom of the screen where my thumb is (and it's 2 taps instead of 1). I also found that I can tap the Search button twice, then tap the (x) button above the keyboard which is bigger than the (x) button in the search box, but that's now 3 taps.
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
You wouldn't want a 'cloze self-graded' card for this, just a regular 'self-graded' - the 'cloze' bit tells it to use a random or a linked sentence.

For your other suggestion, I don't have a great idea for where to put that sort of one-tap option - interface clutter is a *huge* problem for us already, and a button that takes you completely out of context is the sort of thing that instantly turns off new users because suddenly the app is behaving in an unpredictable way and throwing away the work you've done to get to wherever-you-are and you don't feel confident exploring any other new buttons after that. I guess we could have an off-by-default option to put a big 'search' icon at the top of definition screens, but it feels like kind of a messy hack - insert this weird extra button in the toolbar and if you happen to be in this one screen when you want to search the dictionary and you've turned on this option then you have a little time-saving shortcut.

However, the new camera shortcut button in the iPhone 16 does present a possible opportunity, since apps are able to take over that button pretty easily; we could set up a system where you could instantly look a word from anywhere in Pleco by pressing that button (and probably sell a bunch of iPhones to excited Pleco power users in the process :) The main question is whether a feature using it for something not camera related would pass App Review, but it wouldn't hurt to try. (we could always have it default to opening OCR - a usage they're unlikely to have a problem with - but then let you change it to something else in settings)
(never mind, turns out this is not allowed and they enforce that in software)
 
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