Combine simplistic batches with SRS

[Blebo]

Hello everyone,

I could use some guidance on the art of using Pleco flashcards.

I did HSK 3 with the simple profile, splitting the 300 words into groups of 25 and than going through them using the different test types and moving out hard to learn words to another category to keep momentum.

This worked great and when I really got into it I was able to drill through 75 new words in one week. I just lacked the SRS aspect and would forget words/sit through hundreds of words review sessions

So for HSK 4 I decided to go with the SRS approach with it set to 15 new words per day. Now I’m missing the convenience of using the different test types to drill in words and especially find it difficult to specifically drill trouble words.

How can I combine the two study approaches? I would like to be able to use SRS for self graded review only. Use different test types to drill in new words in batches, and ideally when time permits would like to easily add another 10 new words to the drilling session.

I currently have HSK 4 set split into groups of 100 cards.

Thank you

 

[mikelove]

Create another profile - not SRS - and have it use the same scorefile (select it in "Scoring") as your SRS one; also, set "scoring system" to "none." With this, you can conduct whatever drills you like on your SRS cards, based on your performance with them in SRS tests, but not have it affect their SRS intervals.

 

[Blebo]

Create another profile - not SRS - and have it use the same scorefile (select it in "Scoring") as your SRS one; also, set "scoring system" to "none." With this, you can conduct whatever drills you like on your SRS cards, based on your performance with them in SRS tests, but not have it affect their SRS intervals.

Thank you,

I’ve done that, I have a question about that.

Now when I have card selection on random and choose the entire hsk 4 stack, than it will test me on everything, including all the 450 cards that I haven’t done in SRS yet.

I played around with it a bit and when I select the card selection option repetition spaced and only select the two catalogues I am working in (200 cards) it give me 69 options and so far I think these 69 are about 50/50 hard cards and new cards.

Is it possible to only drill the cards that have a score from the SRS program? (Exclude new cards)


Edit: I got it, changed card selection to frequency-adjusted and set new cards per day to 0.

 

[mikelove]

Yes, you can use 'card filters' to limit it to cards that have already been reviewed at least once - with 'scoring system' set to 'none' testing, in this other profile should not increase that count.

 

[Blebo]

Yes, you can use 'card filters' to limit it to cards that have already been reviewed at least once - with 'scoring system' set to 'none' testing, in this other profile should not increase that count.

Hey Mike, can I ask you a question not related to this topic.

I previously spend a lot of time trying to improve my listening until I got the realisation that with HSK 3 I only know 600 words and it’s not realistic to compete with native speakers that know 20x that’s, that’s why I started religiously learning flashcards.

When or how can you bring Chinese flashcard practice into real life. As you know I’m in the beginning of HSK 4. I am currently in China but I don’t really understand anyone…

I only have a vocabulary below 1000 words, a native speaker has 15000-20000, and they speak fast so it’s understandable that I do not understand. Although, Chinese companies require you to have a minimum of HSK 4 for you to work there. That would give you a vocabulary of 900 words. So, am I just really bad at listening and bringing everything into practise or am I missing something?

Do you perhaps have any tips or ideas on this?

 

[mikelove]

This is pretty normal - to be honest, I wouldn't make flashcards all that central to your efforts; part of the whole idea of Pleco is to let you get away with knowing *less* vocabulary by making it easier to look stuff up (particularly with reading, but to some extent with listening too). If you can get a conversation partner or tutor (online is fine) for speaking/listening practice, that would probably be a big help; watching TV with Chinese subtitles can also be quite beneficial, the vocabulary tends to be pretty simple and repetitive and it will naturally tend to emphasize words/phrases/structures that are actually used a lot in conversation.