Thanks! Audio would probably come out after the dictionary, we'd decide how much money to spend developing it / whether to invest in recording multi-syllable words or just single syllables based in no small part on how the non-audio-enabled dictionary sold.dustpuppy said:i'm so happy to hear that ! please push through for the cantonese dictionary license, especially if it has audio. i'm ready to pay a lot of money for such a dictionary.
For a lot of users maybe, but there seem to be vicious enough debates on the subject that it's probably best to support a couple of systems from the get-go so as to keep everyone happy.dustpuppy said:ok that makes sense
have jyutping first would be more than enough initially.
Not sure, the negotiation process for this dictionary has been rather drawn-out and even once we get it licensed we have to find time in our development schedule to do the necessary programming work to support Cantonese (actually fairly substantial since we need to come up with a user interface to differentiate Cantonese from Pinyin input - can't always auto-detect it).jacky89 said:Do you know how long this will take? I will shell out money for it right away.
Bear in mind that we still haven't actually signed a license for a Cantonese dictionary yet, we're just getting close to doing so... I'm not too worried about pricing, though; we'd be almost the only game in town for Cantonese-to-English, and could certainly charge whatever we needed to to cover the costs of bringing it to people.dustpuppy said:What can we do to help convince you to spend the development time on this ? For one thing, the pricing can be different, I have no problem spending a lot of money on a cantonese dictionary if it integrates with pleco.
Just want to add a "me too". As I said in email a few weeks ago, I am willing to pay more for such a dictionary as well as for multi-syllable audio. Audio from Guangzhou would be fine for me.dustpuppy said:What can we do to help convince you to spend the development time on this ? For one thing, the pricing can be different, I have no problem spending a lot of money on a cantonese dictionary if it integrates with pleco.
Not enough WM users left to make a difference, unfortunately, plus it's not 100% guaranteed that we'll release this dictionary on WM - it's a lot more work on the programming side than the Classical dictionary (which we've already strongly suggested will make it to WM). If the current negotiations drag out for a few more months and we do wait to release this until the audio is ready then it might not be out until the end of 2011, and between Windows Phone 7 and our forthcoming Android release, our current prediction for Windows Mobile sales dropping to (essentially) zero is next spring. (the availability / cost of our WM-to-Android license transfers will also be a factor in that, particularly as many capacitive-screen WM phones like the HD2 can be re-flashed to run Android)goog1e said:There may be enough of us willing to advance purchase or "patron" the Cantonese add-on pack to pay for a lot of it up front. It's unfortunate Apple rules are hindering such an arrangement. I'm still on WM6, can I still fund it?
Like I said, we can't use Kickstarter because we can't give iPhone users the dictionary they'd be paying for without violating Apple's rules. We do hope / expect that the price will be fairly reasonable, though - it's not as big a market as Mandarin but there's also a lot less competition in it.dustpuppy said:can you make the cantonese dictionary available for everyone to purchase at a marketable price point ? on top of that we can use kickstarter to commit funds towards development of the cantonese dictionary.
Normally with Kickstarter, people put down money for something they'd like to see developed basically as a sort-of preorder; demonstrate that there's enough money out there for this proposed project that it's worth starting. We wouldn't be able to do that with an iPhone product since we can't process orders outside of iTunes.dustpuppy said:i'm offering to donate money towards the development of a cantonese dictionary. i don't understand how that's against apple rules ?
Don't worry about that - we'll charge enough to cover our costs but there's no point in making it ridiculously expensive, we're making software because we want people to use it. I'd expect it to be in line with the costs of our other dictionaries (though if we offer Cantonese audio, we might charge more for that than Mandarin audio depending on how much it costs us to hire people to record it).pleco10 said:I am keenly looking forward for Canto support in Pleco, but PLEASE don't abuse your monopoly status to charge an extortionary price for Canto dict & flashcards!!! Please have student pricing!!!