HSK 3.0 Flashcards

yellow

Member
Hi Mike,

I wanted to do what JD did and generally it worked, where the entry has both tags (see entry for 解雇, screenshot attached). I have the old HSK ones tagged OHSK# and the HSK 3.0 tagged HSK#.

However, for a particular word (雇佣), I run into issues. The entry I find when I use the search feature has only the new HSK7-9 tag, but I know this word was also in the old HSK. Sure enough, when I click the same word next to HZ in one of the dictionary entries, it brings me to another, separate entry that has the old HSK tagged on it. Attached screenshots for reference.

Obviously it would be ideal to have these combined. I imagine this is not the only case where this happens, though I don't have other examples right now, only a vague sense when going through some words tagged only with HSK3.0 that some of them might have also been in the old set (I could be totally wrong though). The issue might have something to do with the definition having a traditional variant (which is what I gather HZ signifies?), but ideally since I'm using simplified these entries would be merged.

Thanks!

Not sure if it matters, but I should say that I installed the premade HSK3.0 cards after the recent 3.2.63 update.
 

mikelove

皇帝
Staff member
Obviously it would be ideal to have these combined. I imagine this is not the only case where this happens, though I don't have other examples right now, only a vague sense when going through some words tagged only with HSK3.0 that some of them might have also been in the old set (I could be totally wrong though). The issue might have something to do with the definition having a traditional variant (which is what I gather HZ signifies?), but ideally since I'm using simplified these entries would be merged.

Yes, it looks like the issue here is the different traditional characters. Do these cards come up as duplicates if you do a search for duplicate cards in Organize?
 

Shun

状元
Hi @yellow,

to add to Mike's answer, you could try exporting either the Old HSK or HSK 3.0 Flashcards with only the Simplified character set and without Card or Dictionary definitions, then removing them from the categories they are in (not entirely deleting the cards), followed by a re-import of the exported cards list with the option Merge cats or "Update + merge" enabled. In the import dialog, you should choose the same dictionary order for definitions you used for the still existing HSK flashcards. This should eliminate any duplicates—based on the screenshots you have posted, they would almost have to be duplicate cards, because they are linked to different dictionaries. The export and import settings would be:

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Edit: Of course, you wouldn't export all cards, but just the HSK categories you wish to export.

Good luck,

Shun
 
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Miguel

状元
Yes, it looks like the issue here is the different traditional characters. Do these cards come up as duplicates if you do a search for duplicate cards in Organize?

Obviously it would be ideal to have these combined. I imagine this is not the only case where this happens, though I don't have other examples right now, only a vague sense when going through some words tagged only with HSK3.0 that some of them might have also been in the old set (I could be totally wrong though). The issue might have something to do with the definition having a traditional variant (which is what I gather HZ signifies?), but ideally since I'm using simplified these entries would be merged.
Thanks!

It happened the same to me when I changed the main dictionary from CC to PLC for my flashcards. It seems the dictionary entries with HZ in them (abbreviation of Hàn Zì 汉字) are treated as different dictionary entries. So if I had created a card under the CC dictionary and it had HZ, when I changed to PLC and downloaded the new HSK3 those cards were not transferred and would show under "Uncategorized". It took me some time of editing (batch and some of them one by one) to get everything back to normal

EDIT: I've also seen that if the 2 dictionaries had different pronunciation for the same word (for example last neutral tone vs last 1st tone), it would also create 2 different cards
 
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Barry

举人
Hello. I have successfully installed premade HSK3 flashcards into my Android Phone through Pleco app. (thank you for that), but I have a problem to connect to my google account in my Bluestacks Android emulation on my PC and can't download premade HSK3 flashcards there.
Is it possible somewhere download it and manually install those premade cards?
Thank you.
 

andy14

Member
I also did my own OCR of the PDF and cross referenced it with this one and other lists I've found on the web. I also included all of the additional information contained for each word. This includes the "word number" in that level so it can be cross referenced to the PDF. It also includes the intended usage for the word in that particular level such as in the case of 白.

HSK_3_0_LevelHSK_3_0_NoOCRHanziHanzi_AlternateHSK_Level_Usage
16白(形)
39白(副)

If you want to use the file please take a look at:
https://github.com/andycburke/HSK-3.0-Word-List/blob/main/README.md

@mikelove

Here are the differences I found between your list and mine:

HSK_3_0_LevelHSK_3_0_NoOCRPleco
229表示
2378面²(名)(none)
4612森林
7-93054
7-93634
7-94895怡然自得恰然自得
7-94988引人入胜引人人胜
 

rustifer

秀才
I have my own Pleco flashcard database I am building as I come across words. I wish to continue doing this but I want to know which of my existing cards are in the HSK list. Note that I don't want to be studying the other HSK words that I haven't come across yet and that are not in my pre-existing database.

What I think I need to do to accomplish this:
I will need to import Mike's HSK flashcard list - from the first post - into my flashcard database. The HSK list will be merged into my flashcard database and listed under categories according to the HSK levels. I will create tags for those HSK categories and then good to go, right? I still plan to continue studying only the words/cards I've created myself.

My assumptions/questions
1. For those cards that are duplicates (in my existing database and in Mike's HSK list) what is the exact behavior? Will it create a new card or simply add the pre-existing card to the newly created "HSK" categories?

2. Sometimes, I can't remember if I"ve added a word to my flashcard database. When using screen capture, ocr, etc. on new words, there is a square border (solid or dotted, depending on default category) around the "+" button to indicate if that word is already in the flashcard database. This is great and useful... but it will become useless once I've imported the HSK list because now my flashcard database will be filled with words I've never seen and have no intention of studying.
-Is there any way to get this square border to reflect only the the flashcards/words that are NOT in the HSK categories?
-Do I just delete the entire HSK list of flashcards EXCEPT for those words that already existed prior to the HSK import (presumably the HSK categories and tags would remain)? How would I do this?

Apologies for the convoluted post.
 

Shun

状元
Hi,

I'll try to address as many as possible of your specific questions.

When you import the HSK words from Mike's list in the first post of this thread, you can configure the import to merge duplicate cards with pre-existing cards. That will mean that any card you had added to the flashcards database before the HSK import will not be duplicated but instead belong to both the HSK and your previous categories (that is the same card).

Once that is done, when you wish to study cards that are both in the newly imported HSK categories and in your pre-existing categories, you can find just those cards and add them to a new, empty category afterwards.

You can first create a new category named "My HSK Vocabulary", or similar. In the magnifying-glass search feature in Organize Flashcards, choose Search for category and select the HSK category, then add the second search criterion, Search for category and select the category where all of your pre-existing cards are stored (Perhaps you will first need to move all of your pre-existing cards inside a single category folder.). The two search criteria have to be linked together with AND. The resulting list of flashcards can then be copied to the empty category named "My HSK Vocabulary" by selecting them all and choosing Set Cat and the empty category. Then the relevant cards will belong not only to the HSK and your pre-existing categories, but also to the new category; they will be in at least three categories.

As I see it, you would need to repeat this process every couple of months. You'd select all cards in "My HSK Vocabulary", remove them from the category (not delete them), then repeat the above process. No records of your studying progress are lost, since the cards are still there, just not in the "My HSK Vocabulary" category.

-Is there any way to get this square border to reflect only the the flashcards/words that are NOT in the HSK categories?

Not directly, but you could configure a tag for the HSK categories and a tag for your "Encountered words" category. (in the info screen for a category in Organize Flashcards) Then at least when you open the full definition screen for a word, you could tell by the tags in the upper right corner whether a word is just in HSK or you actually encountered it/wish to study it.

-Do I just delete the entire HSK list of flashcards EXCEPT for those words that already existed prior to the HSK import (presumably the HSK categories and tags would remain)? How would I do this?

The Search feature in Pleco 3.2 doesn't allow you to add a NOT search criterion (unlike the Card filters in Flashcards). At first blush I wouldn't recommend it, anyway, because then you couldn't know if any future cards you add to your pool of cards-to-learn are also HSK vocabulary. You can still only study cards that are in both categories by using the combined category from above.

Hope this helps,

Shun
 

rustifer

秀才
Thank you so much for your lengthy response. Much appreciated Shun!

When you import the HSK words from Mike's list in the first post of this thread, you can configure the import to merge duplicate cards with pre-existing cards. That will mean that any card you had added to the flashcards database before the HSK import will not be duplicated but instead belong to both the HSK and your previous categories (that is the same card).

This worked as expected. Woo-hoo.

Once that is done, when you wish to study cards that are both in the newly imported HSK categories and in your pre-existing categories, you can find just those cards and add them to a new, empty category afterwards.

You can first create a new category named "My HSK Vocabulary", or similar. In the magnifying-glass search feature in Organize Flashcards, choose Search for category and select the HSK category, then add the second search criterion, Search for category and select the category where all of your pre-existing cards are stored (Perhaps you will first need to move all of your pre-existing cards inside a single category folder.). The two search criteria have to be linked together with AND. The resulting list of flashcards can then be copied to the empty category named "My HSK Vocabulary" by selecting them all and choosing Set Cat and the empty category. Then the relevant cards will belong not only to the HSK and your pre-existing categories, but also to the new category; they will be in at least three categories.

As I see it, you would need to repeat this process every couple of months. You'd select all cards in "My HSK Vocabulary", remove them from the category (not delete them), then repeat the above process. No records of your studying progress are lost, since the cards are still there, just not in the "My HSK Vocabulary" category.

Hmm, I don't think I need to do all this, do I? I just created a new flashcard test and simply selected all categories EXCEPT for the new HSK categories. The resulting test presented me with only my own cards, including all of my own cards that were also in the the new HSK category. Worked exactly as I was hoping.

Not directly, but you could configure a tag for the HSK categories and a tag for your "Encountered words" category. (in the info screen for a category in Organize Flashcards) Then at least when you open the full definition screen for a word, you could tell by the tags in the upper right corner whether a word is just in HSK or you actually encountered it/wish to study it.

I tagged the categories as you suggested and that works. Even better though: I noticed that one can hit the "+" button, select a category, and then on the subsequent "this is a duplicate card" prompt, it will show you any existing tags that already exist for that word - all without having to leave your current app and switch to the pleco app.

Thanks Shun!
 

Shun

状元
That's great to hear. You're right, of course, or if you ever wanted to limit yourself to HSK cards you've already encountered, you could also set a category filter inside of Card filters to require that they are also HSK cards, which does without any searching and copying of flashcards.

Yeah, getting the tags like that is another very useful feature.

You're welcome,

Shun
 

hv

Member
Silly question,

HSK1 has 100-some words. The flash cards found in level 1 had over 400.

Can someone help explain why there are more cards than words?

Thanks a ton!
 
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